This has been my first year playing at Pioneer Creek. In my opinion, this course is one of the best values for the money around. The rates are very reasonable, the course is beautiful, the greens are very well maintained, and each hole is unique...no two holes even remotely resemble any other on the course, which makes for an entertaining round of golf in my opinion. There is enough trouble, particularly water and OB, to make the course very interesting and challenging without making it too difficult even for someone of my limited abilities ( 18 hcp ). It's unfortunate that Bill below had a negative experience here as my encounters with the staff and management have been nothing but positive. Everyone has been friendly, helpful, and polite. Have I ever heard, "please pick it up a bit." when I didn't think it was warranted?....yes, but with the nation-wide focus on slow play this year and the fact that a marshal only sees a quick snapshot of your round as he/she passes through, it is understandable that periodic suggestions may not always be appropriate ( i.e. if we were searching for two lost balls on the previous hole....remember 18 hcp, it happens..., that IS going to slow us down severely on that hole, but pace quickly picks up again ). It shouldn't surprise anyone if they are reminded to pick up the pace after a rough hole. I don't think the marshals or course management should be judged too harshly as they are only trying to prevent chronic slow play, which is something we all want.....that is until we are the ones being prompted ;). All-in-all, I really enjoy this course and am surprised it is not more well known. For those who do not live on the extreme west side of the cities, it is well worth the drive to golf this course for the first time. Don't take my word for it, take a look for yourself. I'd be surprised if you were disappointed.